Joan
(Abt 1319-1369)

 

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Spouses/Children:
1. John de Molyns
2. Michael de Poynings 1st Baron Poynings

Joan

  • Born: Abt 1319
  • Marriage (1): John de Molyns
  • Marriage (2): Michael de Poynings 1st Baron Poynings before 1349
  • Died: 16 May 1369 aged about 50 1
  • Buried: Holy Trinity Church, The Street, Poynings, West Sussex, BN45 7AQ, GB

  Noted events in her life were:

Manorial Estate: Criols Manor, Borden, Sittingbourne, Kent, ME10, GB. 2 CRIOLS, alias KYRIELLS, with an appendage to it, called Poyles, the very name of which has been long since forgotten, is a manor here, which in early times was in the possession of the eminent family of Criol, who fixed their name on it, as they did on other estates belonging to them in different parts of this county.

Bertram de Criol died possessed of it in the 23d year of king Edward I. anno 1294, whose son John de Criol dying in the 34th year of that reign, s. p. Joane his sister, married to Sir Richard de Rokesle, became his heir, and entitled her husband to this manor.

He left by her two daughters his coheirs, of whom Agnes, the eldest, married Thomas de Poynings, who in her right became possessed of it, and in his name and descendants it continued down to Sir Edward Poynings, governor of Dover-castle, and lord warden, and he died possessed of it in the 14th year of king Henry VIII. anno 1522, not only without legitimate issue, though he had several natural children, but without any collateral kindred, who could lay claim to his estates, so that this manor, among others, escheated to the crown.

Manorial Estate, 1369, Poynings Manor, Steyning, West Sussex, BN45, GB. 3 The manor of POYNINGS was probably identical with 8 hides held in 1086 of William de Warenne by William son of Rainald, who may be identified with Rainald de Poynings son of Reiner.

[...] Adam de Poynings and his wife Beatrice were holding land at Poynings about 1140. They had a son Adam. In 1242-3 Thomas de Poynings held Poynings and its members as 10 knights' fees, and was succeeded by his son Luke, who was holding Poynings in 1284-5, and died in 1294. Michael son and heir of Luke died in 1316, in which year his widow Margery was holding Poynings. In 1339 Thomas, Michael's heir and first holder of the barony of Poynings, created in 1337, died seised of the manor, which descended to his son Michael, who died in March 1369. His widow Joan held the manor as dower till her death a few months later, and it passed subsequently to her son Thomas who died in 1375 having settled the manor on his wife Blanche for life. It does not, however, appear among her possessions at her death in 1409. Thomas's heir was his young brother Richard, who held the manor until 1387. His widow Isabel held as her dower until her death in 1394. Richard's son Robert died in 1446, and since his only son Richard had died in 1430, the manor passed to Richard's daughter Eleanor, wife of Henry Percy son and heir of Henry Percy, Earl of Northumberland. Subsequently the lordship of Poynings became merged in the earldom of Northumberland.

Manorial Estate: Westwood Manor, Preston-next-Faversham, Kent, ME13, GB. 4 WESTWOOD is an eminent manor in the south-east part of this parish, which was antiently part of the possessions of the family of Rokesle, by whom it was held of the barony of Crevequer, by the tenure of performing ward to Dover castle. In the reign of Edward II. Sir Richard de Rokesle became by inheritance the owner of it, holding it by knight's services of the before mentioned barony. He died without male issue, leaving by Joane, sister and heir of John de Criol, two daughters his coheirs, of whom Agnes, the eldest, married to Thomas de Poynings, seems to have entitled her husband to it, who in the 2d year of Edward III. obtained a charter of free warren for all his demesne lands in this manor of Westwood among others.

In his descendants it continued down to Robert de Poynings, who died in the 25th year of king Henry VI. He had two sons, of whom Richard, the eldest, died in his life-time, leaving a daughter Eleanor, married to Sir Henry Percy, afterwards earl of Northumberland, and Robert de Poynings, the younger son, became entitled to this manor, and was succeeded in it by his son and heir Sir Edward Poynings, who was much in favor with king Henry VII. and VIII. being lord warden of the five ports, and knight of the garter. He died in the 14th year of the latter reign, 1522, not only without legitimate issue, but without any collateral kindred, who could make claim to his estates, so that this manor, among his other estates, escheated to the crown, and was afterwards granted to Thomas Cromwell, earl of Essex.

Manorial Estate: Mottenden Manor, Hedcorne [Headcorn], Ashford, Kent, TN27, GB. 5 MOTTENDEN, or more truly Modinden, is a manor situated in the northern part of this parish, which with the estate belonging to it, called Great and Little Mottenden, antiently belonged to the family of Rokesle; one of whom, Sir Richard de Rokesle, in the year 1224, anno 9 Henry III. founded a priory on this manor, for friars of the order of the holy trinity, commonly called Trinitarians, being the first house of this order in England. Their rule was that of St. Austin, with some peculiar constitutions. Their habit, a white gown, with a red and blue cross on their breasts; their revenues were divided, one part for their support and maintenance, another to relieve the poor, and a third to redeem such Christians as should be taken captives by the insidels. To this priory the founder at the same time gave this manor; and there were from time to time several pardons and indulgencies granted by the succeeding popes to the benefactors of it, which increased both the reputation and revenues of it.

[...] This manor, with the scite of the priory and lands belonging to it, did not after this long remain in the hands of the crown; for the king granted them in his 30th year to Thomas, lord Cromwell, who was the next year created earl of Essex.

[Have assumed that this manor was handed down as per the other Rokesley manors.]

Inquisition, 8 Mar 1369. 6 404. MICHAEL DE PONYNGES, or PONYNGGES, knight.

Writ, 8 March, 43 Edward III. WILTS. Inq. made at Wilton, 20 March, 43 Edward III.

La Lee and La Gore by Lavynton. The manors, held in right of Joan his wife, who survives, by reason of a gift thereof lately made by John de Molyns, knight, to John his son and the said Joan, then wife of the latter, and the heirs of their bodies, with remainder to William de Molyns, brother of the said John son of John, and the heirs male of his body, and with reversion to John de Molyns and his heirs. John son of John is dead without heir of his body by Joan, so that the manors ought to remain to William de Molyns and the heirs male of his body after the death of Joan. The manor of La Lee is held of the abbot of Malmesbury, and the manor of La Gore of Robert de la Mare, both by knight's service.

He held no other lands &c. in the county.

He died on 7 March last.

Writ, 8 March, 43 Edward III.

NORFOLK. Inq. (indented) taken at Wilton, Monday in Easter Week, 43 Edward III.

Wilton. The manor (extent given), with the advowson of the church of Hokewold, held of the earl of Arundel, the prior of Castelacre, the prior of Flycham, and Osbert de Mundeford by service of one knight's fee and half a quarter (di' quart'), and by suit to the court of Castelacre, and by 11s. 9d. rent yearly. The extent includes a pightle called 'Halleyerd,' and a marsh, the fishery of which, with the rushes, is worth 10s. a year.

Fouldon. 50a. arable and 5s. yearly rent, held as parcel of the said manor of the said earl, and of the manor of Hilburworth, by service of 4s. 9d. yearly.

Westbradenham. 120a. arable, held of the honor of Clare by homage and suit to the court of Clare.

He died on 15 March last. Thomas his son, aged 20 years and more, is his heir.

NORFOLK. Inq. (indented) taken at Sydestronde, Friday in Easter Week, 43 Edward III.

Sydestronde. He held no lands &c. in the county except the manor of Wilton and the lands &c. which are extended by an inquisition taken at Wilton (see above); but long before his death he granted his manor of Sydestronde, with the advowson of the church of St. Michael there, to Robert Boteler and Richard his own son for their lives. The jurors know not of whom or by what services the manor is held.

Date of death and heir as last above.

NORFOLK. Inq. (indented) taken at Flycham, Thursday in Easter Week, 43 Edward III.

Flycham. He held no lands in Norfolk except as above; but long before his death he granted his manor of Flycham to Robert Boteler and Richard his own son for their lives. The manor is held of the earl of Arundel, services not known.

Date of death and heir as above.

SUFFOLK. Inq. (indented) taken at Wrantham, Wednesday in Easter Week, 43 Edward III.

Wrantham. Long before his death he granted his manor of Wrantham to Andrew de Bures, knight, Robert Botiller, John Borle, parson of the church of Terring, and Walter de Berdefeld, parson of the church of Elyngham, who survive, to hold for the lives of each of them. The manor is held of the earl of Arundel, services not known.

Date of death and heir as above.

Writ, 8 March, 43 Edward III.

SUSSEX. Inq. (indented) taken at Lewes, Saturday the eve of the Annunciation, 43 Edward III. (Twenty-four jurors.)

Ponyngges. The manor (extent given), held of Richard earl of Arundel by knight's service, as of his castle of Lewes. The extent includes a park half a league in circumference, with deer.

Penggeden, Perchyng, Hangelton and Preston by Glynde. Long before his death, to wit, in 29 Edward III, he demised these manors to Robert Boteler, Sir John de Borle, rector of the church of Terryng, Robert Queth, and John atte Hide, who survive, for their lives, at a yearly rent of 2 roses at Midsummer, saving to him and his heirs the reversion thereof, as by the charters appears. The manors of Perchyng, Penggeden, and Hanggelton are held of the said earl by knight's service, as of the said castle; and the manor of Preston is held of John Seynclere, knight, and John Cokefeld, as of their manors of Jevyngton and Ferle, by knight's service.

Westdene by Sefforde. The manor, held jointly with Joan his wife, who survives, of Andrew Sakevill, knight, as of his manor of Chytyngleghe, by knight's service. He acquired it from Thomas Herynggaude, knight, to hold to him and Joan his wife and his heirs, as appears by a fine levied in the king's court and shewn.

Twynem. The manor (extent given), held in socage of the said earl by service of a pair of gilt spurs, price 6d., payable yearly at the earl's manor of Cokefelde. The extent includes a small park of about 100a., with deer.

Walderne. A messuage and 100a. of land, held jointly with Joan his wife, under the name of the manor of Walderne, of Andrew Sakevill, knight, by knight's service, as of his manor of Chidyngglegh, by a fine levied in the king's court as above, by gift of Thomas Herynghaud, knight, to him and the said Joan and his heirs.

Craule. The town (extent given), held of the same earl, as of his castle of Lewes, by knight's service.

Ifeld. 6 marks yearly rent from free tenants, held of John de Moumbray, as of his castle of Brembre, by knight's service.

Slagham. The manor (extent given), held of the said earl, as of his castle of Lewes, by knight's service. The extent includes a chief messuage enclosed by a ditch and water, a park one league in circumference, with deer, and three woods called 'Colewode,' 'Betonwode' and 'Hoggeswode.'

He held no other lands &c. in the county of Sussex.

He died on 7 March last. Thomas his son, who will be 20 years of age on 19 April next, is his heir.

KENT. Inq. (indented) taken at Osprenge, 27 March, 43 Edward III.

Terlyngham. The manor (extent given).

Folkston. A moiety of the hundred.

Hastynglegh. The advowson of the church.

All held of the king in chief by knight's service, as of his castle of Dover, and by service of maintaining and repairing a moiety of a chapel and of a hall in the said castle whenever necessary, and by service of rendering to the king 2s. 6d. at the end of every 28 weeks for great ward of the castle, and 15d. at the end of every 28 weeks for little ward of the castle, and 10s. yearly for sheriff's aid for farm of the moiety of Folkston hundred. The extent of Terlyngham includes a several pasture called 'Northcroft.'

Newynton Bertram. The manor (extent given), held of the king in chief by service as above, as parcel of the manor of Terlyngham. The extent includes 100s. rent which the said Michael long since acquired to him and his heirs from Donald (Douenaldus) Sturmy and Isolda [de Bellehous], his wife, by a fine levied in the king's court, to be received of various tenants in Donemerssh and Newynton, which tenants with their services Donald and Isolda previously held of Michael, as of his manor of Terlyngham.

Westwode. The manor (extent given), held of the king in chief, as of the castle aforesaid, by knight's service and by service of rendering 3s. 4d. at the castle at the end of every 24 weeks.

Preston, Sheldwych, Faveresham and Herteye. 200a. arable, held in gavelkind of the abbot of Faversham, the prior of Christ Church, Canterbury, Nicholas de Loveigne, the archbishop of Canterbury and others; and 7a. meadow, worth only 6d. an acre because it is salt meadow, a spinney (spinet') of 16a., and 7l. 5s. rents, of the same tenure. Rents resolute of 63s. 7 3/4d. to the abbot of Faversham, and of 20s. 6 1/4d. to the various other lords as above.

Estwelle. The manor (extent given), and the advowson of the church thereof, held of the king in chief, as of the aforesaid castle, by knight's service, and by rendering to the king at the said castle 20s. yearly on 27 April. The extent includes the following rents, namely, 19 1/4d. of 'Romescot' and 16s. 1 3/4d. for ward of Dover castle.

Estwell. 40a. land in a field called 'Oterplay,' held of the lord de Say by knight's service; 5 marks yearly rent, held of the abbot of Battle, as of his manor of Asshmersfeld; and 2 marks yearly rent which he acquired from Thomas de Aldon, knight, to be received from the lands late of John Reynold in Westwell.

Estwell. 52a. land, held of Thomas de Aldon, knight; 7a. meadow, [held of the abbot of Battle]; and 4a. meadow, held of the abbot of St. Augustine; all held in gavelkind.

Thomas, whose age appears below, and Richard, who was 12 years of age on 3 July last, sons of the deceased, are his heirs to all the above lands &c. of gavelkind tenure.

Horsmondenne. The manor (extent given), with the advowson of the church thereof, held of the heir of William le Vaus, as of his manor of Chiksill, by knight's service.

The deceased held no other lands &c. in the county of Kent.

He died on 7 March, 43 Edward III. Thomas his son, who will be 20 years of age on 19 April next, is his heir.

C. Edw. III. File 212. (8.)

E. Enrolments &c. of Inq. No. 145. (4.) (Sussex.)

E. Enrolments &c. of Inq. No. 145. (5.) (Kent.)

E. Enrolments &c. of Inq. No. 150. (1.) (Norfolk.)

Will, 11 May 1369. Joan, widow of Sir Michael Poynings, Knight. Friday after the Ascension, 1369. My body to be buried in the church of Poynings, on the north side, near to the grave of my late husband; to the new building of that church c marks; to Thomas my son c marks, until he be of full age, then to be given to the building of the said church; to Elizabeth my daughter a drinking-cup of silver, with a cover, enamelled and gilt, and also an ewer of the same; to Richard, my other son, two vases and two ewers of silver; and also to the said Richard and Thomas, my sons, and to Agnes Bardolf, my daughter", four pieces of silver, of one suit.

Inquisition, 22 May 1369. 1 405. JOAN LATE THE WIFE OF MICHAEL DE PONYNGES, knight.

Writ, 22 May, 43 Edward III.

NORFOLK. Inq. (indented) taken at Wilton, Saturday before St. Barnabas, 43 Edward III.

Wilton. The manor, held for life, in dower, of the earl of Arundel, the prior of Castelacre, Osbert de Mundeford and the prior of Flycham, service not known.

She died on 16 May last. Thomas de Ponynges, her son, aged 20 years on 19 April last, is her heir.

Writ, 22 May, 43 Edward III.

BUCKINGHAM. Inq. taken at Aillesburi, Tuesday after the Translation of St. Thomas the Martyr, 43 Edward III.

Weston Turvile. A manor, with the advowson of the church, held jointly with John son of John de Molyns, knight, to them and the heirs of their bodies, by feoffment of the said John de Molyns, with remainder to William, brother of the said John son of John, and the heirs male of his body, by a fine levied in the king's court. The manor is held of the duke of Lancaster by homage and fealty.

She died on Sunday the feast of St. John before the Latin Gate, 43 Edward III. She and the said John died without heir of their bodies, so that the premises remain to the aforesaid William by virtue of the said fine.

Writ, 22 May, 43 Edward III.

WILTS. Inq. taken at Salisbury, 19 June, 43 Edward III.

La Lee and La Gore by Lavynton. The manors, held in the same form as that of Weston Turvile above, with reversion to John de Molyns and his heirs in the event of William de Molyns, brother of John son of John de Molyns, dying without heir male of his body. As John son of John de Molyns died without heir of his body by Joan, the manors remain to William his brother. The manor of La Lee is held of the abbot of Malmesbury, and the manor of La Gore of Robert de la Mare, both by knight's service.
Joan held no other lands &c. in the county.

Date of death not known. William de Molyns, aged 24 years and more, is living, and is her heir by the form of the gift.

Writ, 22 May, 43 Edward III.

KENT. Inq. (indented) taken at Ospringge, 4 June, 43 Edward III.

Newynton Bertram. The manor.

Estwelle. The manor, except the lands &c. therein which are held in gavelkind.

She held the above by way of dower assigned to her in Chancery after the death of Michael, her late husband, in right of Thomas son and heir of the said Michael, a minor in the king's wardship. The premises are held of the king by knight's service, as of the castle of Dover, as more fully appears in an extent made and returned into Chancery in the aforesaid year after the death of Michael.

She held no other lands &c. in the county.

Date of death and heir as in the Norfolk inquisition, except that Thomas de Ponynges is here said to be the son of her and Michael.

SUSSEX. Inq. (indented) taken at Ponyngges, 2 June, 43 Edward III. Ponyngges.

The manor (extent given), held in dower &c., as in the Kent inquisition, of Richard earl of Arundel by knight's service, as of his castle of Lewes. The extent includes a park half a league in circumference, with deer.

Heir as in the Kent inquisition.

Westden. The manor.

Walderne. A messuage and 100a. land.

Both the above she held for life by a fine levied in the king's court to her and Michael and the heirs of Michael, by acquisition from Thomas Heryngaud, knight. The premises are held of Andrew Sakeville, knight, by knight's service.

Date of death and heir as in the Kent inquisition.

C. Edw. III. File 213. (1.)

E. Inq. P.M. File 31. (10.) (Sussex.)

E. Enrolments &c. of Inq. No. 145. (6.) (Sussex.)

E. Enrolments &c. of Inq. No. 150. (13.) (Norfolk.)


Joan married John de Molyns, son of Sir John de Molyns and Gilles. (John de Molyns died before 1349.)


Joan next married Michael de Poynings 1st Baron Poynings, son of Sir Thomas de Poynings and Agnes de Rokesle, before 1349. (Michael de Poynings 1st Baron Poynings was born before 17 Nov 1317,7 died on 7 Mar 1369 8 and was buried in Holy Trinity Church, The Street, Poynings, West Sussex, BN45 7AQ, GB 9.)


Sources


1 J E E S Sharp and A E Stamp, <i>Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem </i> (London: n.p., n.d.), 12: 393-411.

2 Edward Hasted, <i>The History and Topographical Survey of the County of Kent</i>, 12 (Canterbury: W Bristow, 1799), 6: 68-80.

3 <i>A History of the County of Sussex</i>, 8 (London: Victoria County History, 1953), 7: 208-212.

4 Edward Hasted, <i>The History and Topographical Survey of the County of Kent</i>, 12 (Canterbury: W Bristow, 1799), 6: 532-549.

5 Edward Hasted, <i>The History and Topographical Survey of the County of Kent</i>, 12 (Canterbury: W Bristow, 1799), 5: 324-336.

6 J E E S Sharp and A E Stamp, <i>Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem </i> (London: n.p., n.d.), 12: 380-392.

7 J E E S Sharp and A E Stamp, <i>Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem </i> (London: n.p., n.d.), 8: 166-180; Michael his son, aged 22 years and more, is his next heir; Inquisition post mortem for Thomas de Poynings, father.

8 J E E S Sharp and A E Stamp, <i>Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem </i> (London: n.p., n.d.), 12: 380-392. .... Sir Leslie Stephen, Robert Blake, Christine Stephanie Nicholls, <i>Dictionary of National Biography</i> (London, The Macmillan Company: Smith, Elder, & Co , 1885-1900).

9 Sir Leslie Stephen, Robert Blake, Christine Stephanie Nicholls, <i>Dictionary of National Biography</i> (London, The Macmillan Company: Smith, Elder, & Co , 1885-1900).

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