Nocher I de Bar-sur-Aube Comte de Bar-sur-Aube
(-After 1011)
Adelisa
Nocher II de Bar-sur-Aube Comte de Bar-sur-Aube
(-Between 1019/1040)
Aelis de Bar-sur-Aube Comtesse de Bar-sur-Aube
(Abt 1020/1025-1053)

 

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Spouses/Children:
1. Renaud de Semur
2. Renard de Joigny Comte de Joigny
3. Roger I de Vignory
4. Raoul III de Valois Comte de Valois

Aelis de Bar-sur-Aube Comtesse de Bar-sur-Aube

  • Born: Abt 1020-1025 1
  • Marriage (1): Renaud de Semur in 1040 1
  • Marriage (2): Renard de Joigny Comte de Joigny about 1040-1042 1
  • Marriage (3): Roger I de Vignory about 1041-1043 1
  • Marriage (4): Raoul III de Valois Comte de Valois between 1041 and 1045 1
  • Died: 11 Sep 1053 aged about 33 1

  General Notes:

AELIS ([1020/25]-11 Sep 1053). The Acta Sanctorum commentary on the life of St Simon de Valois, based on an undated manuscript of the abbey of Saint-Claude, records that "Rodulpho (Simonis genitori)" married three wives, firstly "Adela, Nocheri Barrensis ad Albam comitis filia, Notheri comitis Suessionum neptis, Achardi proneptis" who had previously married "Rainaldum de Sinemuro, Rainardum comitem de Jooniaco, Rotgerium de Wangionis ripa". Considering the date of her first marriage, and that she had several children by her fourth husband, it is unlikely that Aelis was born before [1020/25]. Ctss de Bar-sur-Aube. Her marital history is recorded in the Acta Sanctorumcommentary on the life of St Simon de Valois: after the death of her first husband, "Rodulfus comes Calvimontis Vallis Cassini" [identified as her future fourth husband] visited "castellum Barri" who proposed marriage, the ceremony to take place after his return from a pilgrimage to Rome, but as the proposal displeased "primoribus terræ illius" they married her during Raoul´s absence to "Rainardo comiti de Jooniaco". After Raoul returned, he besieged "Jooniacum castellum" and abducted Aelis to "castello Firmitatis", wanting to assure himself that she was not pregnant before marrying her. While there, the inhabitants of Bar-sur-Aube married her again to "Rotgerio de Wangionis ripa", after which Raoul ravaged the countryside until they returned Aelis to him. Her son "Symon comes Barrensium" donated property to the abbey of Molesme for the souls of "parentum suorum Radulfi…comitis et Walterii fratris suis et matris sue Adele" by undated charter. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Adala" wife of "comitis Veromandie [error for Valois] Rodolfi" and mother of "Symonem et filiam…Adala", but does not give her origin. "Symon comes Barrensium" donated property to the abbey of Molesme for the souls of "parentum suorum Radulfi…comitis et Walterii fratris suis et matris sue Adele" by undated charter, the entry stating that "Adelina comitissa" died "III Id Sep".

m firstly (1040) RENAUD de Semur-en-Brionnais, son of GEOFFROY I Seigneur de Semur & his first wife --- de Brioude.

m secondly ([1040/42], separated) RENARD Comte de Joigny, son of GEOFFROY de Joigny & his wife Alix de Sens.

m thirdly ([1041/43], separated) as his second wife, ROGER [I] avoué de Vignory, son of GUY [I] de Vignory & his wife--- (-before 1057).

m fourthly([1041/45]) as his first wife, RAOUL [III] Comte de Valois, de Vexin, d'Amiens et de Vitry, son of RAOUL [II] Comte de Valois & his wife Adela de Breteuil (-Péronne 23 Feb or 8 Sep 1074, bur Montdidier, later transferred to Crépy-en-Valois, église collégiale Saint-Arnoul). The county of Bar-sur-Aube was transmitted to the issue of this fourth marriage. 1


Aelis married Renaud de Semur, son of Geoffroy I de Semur Seigneur de Semur and de Brioude, in 1040.1


Aelis next married Renard de Joigny Comte de Joigny about 1040-1042.1


Aelis next married Roger I de Vignory, son of Guy I de Vignory and Unknown, about 1041-1043.1 (Roger I de Vignory died before 1057 1.)


Aelis next married Raoul III de Valois Comte de Valois, son of Raoul de Mantes Comte de Valois et d'Amiens and de Breteuil, between 1041 and 1045.1 (Raoul III de Valois Comte de Valois died 23 Feb or 8 Sep 1074 in Péronne, Somme, Picardie, 80200, FR 1 and was buried in Abbaye Saint-Arnoul(d), Place Saint-Simon, Crépy-en-Valois, Oise, Picardie, 60800, FR 1.)


Sources


1 Charles Cawley, <i>Medieval Lands</i>.

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