Helen verch Llewelyn 2 3 4
- Born: Abt 1215
- Marriage (1): John of Huntingdon 9th Earl of Huntingdon, 7th Earl of Chester about 1222 1
- Marriage (2): Robert de Quincy before 5 Dec 1237 1 2
- Died: Bef 24 Oct 1254 1 2 5 6
Another name for Helen was Eleanor verch Llewelyn.6
General Notes:
HELEN (-1253 before 24 Oct). The Annals of Dunstable record that "Johannes comes Cestriæ" died in 1237 and "eius uxor…filia Lewelini" married "Roberto [de Quinci]" against her father´s wishes. The primary source which confirms her name has not yet been identified. Matthew of Paris records that it was suspected that his wife "filia Leolini" poisoned John "the Scot". A writ after the death of "Eleanor, sometime the wife of John Earl of Chester", dated "the eve of St Martin 38 Hen III", records the "partition of her lands between Si J. de Bayllol, Robert de Brus, and Henry de Hasting, the heirs of the said earl".
m firstly ([1220/22]) JOHN "the Scot" Earl of Huntingdon, son of JOHN of Scotland Earl of Huntingdon & his wife Matilda [Maud] of Chester ([1207]-Darnal shortly before 6 Jun 1237, bur Chester St Werburg). He was created Earl of Chester 21 Nov 1232. The Annales Cambriæ record the death in 1237 of "Johannes comes Cestriæ gener suus [dominæ Johannæ filiæ regis Angliæ et uxor Lewilini principis Walliæ]".
m secondly (1237 before 5 Dec) ROBERT de Quincy, son of SAHER Earl of Winchester & his wife Margaret of Leicester (-Aug 1257).
[FMG/Medieval Lands]
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He [John le Scot] married, 1222, Helen, daughter of LLEWELLYN AP IORWERTH, PRINCE OF NORTH WALES, and by her is suspected to have been poisoned. He died s.p., at Darnall, co. Chester, very shortly before 6 June 1237, and was buried at St. Werburg's, Chester, leaving the two daughters of his eldest sister and his three surviving sisters, as his coheirs, but in 1246 the Earldom of Chester was annexed to the Crown "lest so fair (preclara) a dominion should be divided (inter colas feminarum) among women." His widow married, before 5 December 1237, Robert DE QUINCY (youngest son of Saher, Earl of Winchester), who died s.p.m., August 1257. She died 1253, before 24 October.
[Complete Peerage III:169-70, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
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Received manors of Bidford, Warwickshire & Suckley, Worcestershire as maritagium. 1
Events
• Inquisition, 24 Oct 1254. 6 312. Eleanor, sometime the wife of John, earl of Chester.
Writ (missing).
Partition of her lands between Sir J. de Bayllol, Robert de Brus, and Henry de Hasting', the heirs of the said earl. The eve of St. Martin, 38 Hen. III.
[Middlesex.]
Totenham manor (extent given), whereof the 3rd part is worth 19l. 5s. 2d.
C. Hen. III. File 16. (7.)
Helen married John of Huntingdon 9th Earl of Huntingdon, 7th Earl of Chester, son of David Dunkeld 8th Earl of Huntingdon and Matilda of Chester, about 1222.1 (John of Huntingdon 9th Earl of Huntingdon, 7th Earl of Chester was born about 1207,1 died in Jun 1237 in Darnhall, Winsford, Cheshire, CW7, GB 1 and was buried in Abbey Church of St. Werburgh [now Chester Cathedral], Abbey Square, Chester, Cheshire, CH1 2HU, GB 1.)
Helen next married Robert de Quincy, son of Saher [IV] de Quincy 1st Earl of Winchester and Margaret de Beaumont, before 5 Dec 1237.1 2 (Robert de Quincy was born between 1217 and 1219 1 and died in Aug 1257 1 2 7.)
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