Herbert FitzHenry Chamberlain of England
(Abt 1060-Bef 1130)

 

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Spouses/Children:
1. Emma de Blois

Herbert FitzHenry Chamberlain of England 1

  • Born: Abt 1060
  • Marriage (1): Emma de Blois
  • Died: Bef 1130, Winchester, Hampshire, SO22, GB 2

  General Notes:

HERBERT FitzHenry, son of HENRY & his wife --- (-[1129/30]). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. [Domesday Book records land held by "Herbert the Chamberlain" in Rhode and Selborne in Neatham Hundred, Soberton in Meonstoke Hundred in Hampshire. It is not known whether these entries relate to the future chamberlain of King Henry I.] Chamberlain of Henry I King of England from 1101. "…Herbertus regis camerarius…" subscribed a charter dated Sep 1101 under which Bishop Herbert donated property to Norwich priory. The Hyde Register lists "Herbertus camerarius, Arnulfus filius eius, Emma uxor eius" immediately after the names of King Henry I and his first wife. An undated charter of Thomas Archbishop of York records that "domino Herberto Camerario et filio eius" were enfeoffed with "Laudesbrough, cum Tolethorpe, Wiverthorpe cum Helperthorp et duabus Luttunis in Turgisleby" and other properties in Yorkshire and in Gloucestershire, witnessed by "…Herbertus filius…". The 1130 Pipe Roll records "Herb Camer" in Bedfordshire and Warwickshire. As his son appears in the same source holding lands of his father, it is assumed that Herbert FitzHenry died during the course of that year.

m EMMA, daughter of ---. The Hyde Register lists "Herbertus camerarius, Arnulfus filius eius, Emma uxor eius" immediately after the names of King Henry I and his first wife. Secondary sources state that she was Emma de Blois, illegitimate daughter of Etienne Comte de Blois & his mistress ---. This is presumably based on the Chronicle of Meaux, in Yorkshire, which names "comitis--- Herberti filius, ex Emma sorore regis Anglorum Stephani progenitus". As this source is dated to [1394/1400], it is unlikely to be conclusive in relation to events which occurred 250 years earlier in the absence of other corroborative evidence. Eyton includes no reference to any wife of Herbert FitzHenry in his article on the barony of FitzHerbert. Until further evidence comes to light, it is suggested that the information be considered with caution. If it is correct, the chronology of the FitzHerbert family dictates that Emma must have been born while her supposed father was still young, maybe even before his marriage to Adela of Normandy in 1080.

Herbert & his wife had six children: Arnulf, Richard, Herbert, William and two daughters.

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Herbert of Winchester (also styled Herbert the Chamberlain) of unproven ancestry, d. in or shortly bef. 1130, Chamberlain and Treasurer under William II and Henry I, held lands in Hampshire in 1086, and afterwards held other lands in Bedfordshire, Hampshire, Gloucester and Yorkshire. [Ancestral Roots]

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Herbert was evidently part of a conspiracy to overthrow Henry I in 1118 and was dismissed [from office of Chamberlain] and Suger of St Denis indicates that he was treated with mercy and was only castrated and blinded! [Richard Borthwick, post to SGM, 30 Jan 1998]

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This very ancient family from which the chivalrous house of Herbert and other eminent houses sprang, derived originally in England from Herbert, styled Count of Vermandois, who came over at the Conquest with the first William and filled the office of Chamberlain to William Rufus. He was great-grandson of Herbert, Comte de Vermandois, the lineal descendant of Charlemagne. Herbert is mentioned in the Battel Abbey Roll and was rewarded by a grant of lands in Hampshire. His wife was Emma, daughter of Stephen, Earl of Blois, by Adela, daughter of William the Conqueror, and by that lady left a son and heir, Herbert Fitz-Herbert. [John Burke, History of the Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland, Vol. IV, R. Bentley, London, 1834, p. 728, Jones, of Llanarth] 3


Herbert married Emma de Blois, daughter of Étienne de Blois Comte de Blois and Unknown. (Emma de Blois was born about 1073 in Blois, Loir-et-Cher, Centre, FR.)


Sources


1 Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, David Faris, <i>Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants</i> (Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1992), 262-26.

2 Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, David Faris, <i>Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants</i> (Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1992), 262-26. .... Charles Cawley, <i>Medieval Lands</i>.

3 Charles Cawley, <i>Medieval Lands</i>.

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