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John de Gatesden
(-Bef 1254)
Robert de Courtenay Lord of Okehampton
(Abt 1183-1242)
Mary de Vernon
(-After 1244)
Sir John de Gatesden of Woolavington, Sussex
(-1258)
Hawise de Courtenay
(Abt 1216-Bef 1269)
Margaret de Gatesden
(1245-Bef 1311)

 

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Spouses/Children:
1. Sir John [II] de Camoys

2. Sir William Paynell 1st Baron Paynel

Margaret de Gatesden

  • Born: 22 Jan 1245 2
  • Marriage (1): Sir John [II] de Camoys about 1279 1
  • Marriage (2): Sir William Paynell 1st Baron Paynel before Jul 1301 1
  • Died: Bef 4 Jan 1311 1

  General Notes:

Margaret, daughter and heiress of Sir John de Gatesdene.

Married firstly (about 1279), Sir John de Camoys. He subsequently made her over by deed to Sir William Paynell, whose wife she was then called; in 1289, he further granted to Paynell all the lands he held in Sussex in right of his wife for a term of 100 years, i.e. for his own lifetime. She outlived her husband and under this deed claimed on his death her dower of one third of his estate, but this by judgement by Parliment, 29 and 30 ED.I (1301-2), was negated on the ground that a husband's deed could not legalize adultery. After her husband's death, she obtained license on paying the King 100 marks, to marry whom she pleased.

Married secondly (before Jul 1301), Sir William Paynell. He bore "arg. 2 bars sable between 7 martlets gules, 4, 2 and 1.

[The Family of Kemmis] 1

  Events

Inquisition: Post mortem, 4 Feb 1259. 2 454. John de Gatesdene, the younger.

Writ to the sheriff of Bedford, 4 Feb. 43 Hen. III.

He died on the feast of St. Catherine, 43 Hen. III.

Margaret, his daughter, aged 13 on St. Vincent's day (last), is his heir.

[Herts.] Inq. The day of St. Edward the king, 43 Hen. III (much defaced). Gatesden town (extent given).

[Bedford.] Inq. Wednesday after the Nativity of the Blessed Virgin Mary, 43 Hen. III. Stanbruge manor (extent given with names of tenants); and the said John was bound to pay to the house of Neuham 4l. yearly of the king's alms, and 3l. to the king's exchequer for chief falconer's service, and there remains to the king 10s. 6d. excepting perquisites of courts.

[Sussex.] Extent (undated).

Tratinton manor (extent given), with the advowson.

Demeford manor (extent given).

Wakeford, 20s. 5d. rent of assize.

Elnestede manor (extent given), with the advowson.

Dedeleng manor (extent given).

Lady Clemence, late the wife of Bartholomew de Elnested, receives annually 10l. in dower from Elnested manor, which is held of the bishop of Exeter by service of knight's fee; the manors of Tratinten with Dudeling and Demeford were held of Franco de Bouin by service of knight's fee; and from Dedeling manor ought to be paid 9s. 4d. yearly to the heirs of Sir Gilbert Basevile.

(Comp. Nos. 551 and 706.)

C. Hen. III. File 23. (9.)

Manorial Estate, 1262, Elsted Manor, Midhurst, West Sussex, GU29, GB. 3 At some date previous to 1242 Bartholomew [de Elsted] had granted to John de Gatesden 2 virgates and 3 acres of land and a rent of 8s. from his demesne land of Elsted, and John agreed with the prior that all the land of Elsted which the prior had acquired from the Crofts should be held by John in fee tail, with reversion in default of issue of John to the prior. The church, advowson, and tithes of 3 acres were to be held by the prior. John also agreed to pay Clemence 10 a year from Elsted as her dower. She survived John de Gatesden and the annuity was confirmed to her by the king in 1262. Half a carucate of land in Elsted was part of the jointure of John's widow Hawise, but the manor itself appears to have passed with Trotton before John de Gatesden's death to his son John, as it was among his possessions when he died in 1258. With the other Gatesden estates, Elsted passed to Margaret, daughter and heiress of the younger John de Gatesden. She and her husband John de Camoys in 1280 recognized the right of the Prior of Boxgrove to certain land and a mill in Elsted which John de Gatesden had held for his life by a lease from a former prior, and 17 acres in Elsted in the vale of Marden. They also gave him an acre in Tulonde, and the advowson of the church, while the prior recognized their right to 22 acres of land in Kerswell furlong and 3 acres of wood lying to the south of this land.

Sir John Camoys leased the manor in 1279 for 20 years to Henry Husee of Harting, who paid the rent of 25 to Queen Eleanor on behalf of Sir John de Camoys. After Henry's death, though there were 9 years of the lease yet to run, Sir John entered into the manor, and took fealty of the tenants. Thereupon Sir William Paynel, who was then in possession of all the Gatesden manors, came to Elsted and chased away Sir John's servants, until he too was ousted by the subescheator in the king's name. In 1329 the Bishop of Exeter wrote to Sir Ralph Camoys (son of Sir John) stating that the Prior of Boxgrove claimed that he held the manor of the bishop and that Sir Ralph was his tenant; the bishop contradicted the prior's claim and told Sir Ralph that his service should be rendered to himself as for 2 knights' fees of his manor of Chidham.

The manor descended with Trotton (q.v) to the coheirs of Sir Roger Lewknor...

Inquisition: Post mortem, 10 Apr 1269. 4 706. John de Gatesden and Hawis de Nevill sometime his wife.

Writ, 10 Ap. 53 Henry III.
Heir unspecified.

[Sussex.] Extent, Tuesday before St. George, 53 Hen. III.

Wollaventon manor and advowson with its members of Grafham and Alveredesham (extent given). Nicholas de Wauncy, who sold the said manor with its member of Alveredesham, held the same of the bishop of Exeter for 2 knights' fees.

[Sussex.] Extent, Sunday before St. George, 53 Hen. III.

Wauderne Wauncy. 6l. 14d. rent of assize, pannage, and lb. pepper.

Wauderne Ranes alias Rasnes, Raundes. 34s. 11d. rent of assize. 42s. 2d. rent of customers, fowls, herbage, pannage, pleas and perquisites, &c.

Flechinge alias Flecinges. 55s. 7d. and 3lb. pepper rent of assize, 14s. 10d. rent of customers, fowls, tallage, &c.

Berkaump. A messuage, 115a. arable, 19a. meadow, 16s. 1d. rent of freemen, 37s. 7d. from customers, wood and pasture.

Bevenden. 63a. land, pasture for sheep worth 12s., and 26s. rent of assize.

Dicheninge. 65s. 5d. rent of assize, held by the sale of William de Colevill.

Flecinge, the advowson of the church.

He held Flecinge, Berkampe and Bevendene by the sale of Master William de Perepont, service unknown; the rent of Wauderne Wauncy of the heirs of Nicholas de Wauncy; and that of Wauderne Raundes of Geoffrey de Raundes.

[Surrey.] Extent, Monday before St. George, 53 Hen. III.

Westcote manor (extent given), tenure unspecified.

Bromleye. 39s. 10d. rent of assize held of the hospital of Sandon.

[Sussex.] Extent, Sunday before St. George, 53 Hen. III.

Heckhton manor (extent given), including 23s. 2d. rent of villeins of Hodleye, held, with other lands in co. Somerset, of the heirs of Katherine de Monte Acuto, service unknown; whereof John de Grely has 2 parts, and Robert Waleraund the third part.

Writ of extent, &c. 12 April, 53 Henry III.

Whereas the king was bound by letters patent to provide Robert Walerand with a lady or girl in marriage with the wardship of 200l. land, and has granted to him the marriage of the daughter and heir of John de Gatesden, and 200 marks of his lands, saving to Hawis late his wife her reasonable dower, until the full age of the heir, with the advowsons, &c.; but the said Robert has not yet had but 89l. 11s. 1d. of land; the king, willing that the said grant should be completed, has granted to him the manors of Brawater, Durinton, Walecot, Leybrok, Dedeling, Waudern Raundes, Waudern Wancy, Bromleye, Bevenden, Dychenyng, Bradeford, Wollaventon with its members of Grafham and Alvredesham, and Alkeburn, on condition that they shall be again extended, and if they are worth more than the king is bound for, the said Robert shall answer for it to the king, and if there shall be any deficiency the king will satisfy it elsewhere. The escheator is therefore commanded to deliver the said manors to the said Robert in wardship, and to extend all the manors and lands in the said Robert's hands of the said John's inheritance.

(See Nos. 551 and 881.)

C. Hen. III. File 36. (19.)

Manorial Estate, 1311, Bevendean Manor, Falmer, Brighton, East Sussex, BN1, GB. 5 Another estate in BEVENDEAN was held with land in Barcombe of the barony of Lewes and in 1439 formed 1 knight's fee. The overlordship descended with that of Barcombe (q.v.) to the Dukes of Norfolk after 1439 but its later history is uncertain, although it was still owing suit at Lewes in the early 17th century.

Bevendean was sold by Master William de Pierpoint in about 1242 to John de Gatesden. After John's death in 1262 his widow Hawise had the manor of Bevendean as part of her dower until in 1264 it was seized by the overlord, Earl Warenne, on the pretext that she had joined the rebels against the king. The land was restored to Hawise and descended with the manor of Camoys Court in Barcombe (q.v.), being divided in 1426 between the two sisters of Hugh de Camoys, Margaret wife of Ralph Radmylde and Eleanor wife of Roger Lewknor. William grandson of Ralph Radmylde appears to have been holding his portion in 1493-4. He died in 1499, without issue. Sometime before 1503 this land passed to John Covert of Slaugham and Hangleton who died seised of a manor of Bevendean in that year. It descended in the family of Covert with Benfield in Hangleton (q.v.) and Twineham-Benfield (q.v.) and in 1639, as 'the farm called Bevingdeane', was settled by Thomas Covert on his wife Diana, daughter of George, 1st Lord Goring. In 1664 Diana Baynham, their daughter, was holding it. This estate, apparently, by the early part of the 17th century included also the Lewknor portion and was described as half the manor of Bevendean, the other half being the property of Edward Culpeper.

The part of the manor held by Roger Lewknor and Eleanor was conveyed in 1538 by their grandson Roger Lewknor and Elizabeth [sic] his wife to Sir John Harcourt and Giles Foster, probably for a settlement. In 1559 William Morgan and Katherine his wife, a daughter of Roger Lewknor, conveyed the estate which was part of Katherine's inheritance to Thomas Walsingham after the expiry of the life interest which Anthony Stapley, husband of Mabel Lewknor, held. By the beginning of the 17th century this part of the manor had passed into the possession of Sir Walter Covert, owner of the Radmylde moiety.

Manorial Estate, 1311, Camoys Court Manor, Barcombe, Lewes, East Sussex, BN8, GB. 6 The manor of CAMOYS COURT alias BARKHAM CAMOYS, lying partly in Barcombe, but also in Ditchling and Newick, was probably represented about 1198 by land held by Maud de Bercamp. The overlordship descended with the rape. In the division of the barony in 1439 the 1 knight's fees formerly held by John de Gadesden, in which this land was included, were divided. Half a fee in Ditchling was assigned to Elizabeth, Lady Bergavenny; one fee in Bevendean and Barcombe went to the Duke of Norfolk. In 1543, however, Camoys Court was held of the joint owners of the barony, and it still owed suit at the court of Lewes down to 1835 at least.

From Maud de Bercamp the holding passed to her son Ralph de Pierpoint; but William de Pierpoint, who held demesne in Barcombe in 1235, had sold his land there by 1242 to John de Gadesden or Gatesden who was then holding 3 knights' fees in 'Bercompe'. John married Hawise Savage, widow of John de Nevill, in about 1246 and died in 1262. Hawise died about 1269. The marriage of John's grand-daughter and heiress Margaret was granted to Robert Waleraund. In or about 1279 Margaret married Sir John de Camoys but deserted him for William Paynel, whom she married after Sir John's death in 1298. Margaret died about January 1311 and her son Ralph de Camoys was holding land in the vill of Barcombe in 1316. On his death in 1336 his lands passed to his son Thomas, who died without issue in 1372 holding the reversion of the manor, after the death of William de Mallynge, jointly with his wife Margaret. She was still holding them in 1386. Sir Thomas de Camoys, his nephew, succeeded him. In 1412 his lands in Barcombe were worth 5 a year and in 1428 were assessed as knight's fee. He died in 1421, and was succeeded by his grandson Hugh, then aged seven, on whose death in 1426 the Camoys property descended to his sisters, Margaret, wife of Ralph Radmylde, and Eleanor, wife of Roger Lewknor of Trotton. Ralph Radmylde survived Margaret and died in 1443, when her half of the manor passed to their son Robert, then aged 18. Robert was succeeded in 1457 by a son William, a child of 6, but this part of the manor appears soon to have passed to Roger Lewknor, in whose family the whole manor descended. At this date the manor was still known as Barcombe, but later it acquired the name Camoys Court.


Margaret married Sir John [II] de Camoys, son of Sir Ralph de Camoys and Asceline de Torpel, about 1279.1 (Sir John [II] de Camoys was born about 1247 1 7 and died before 4 Jun 1298 1.)


Margaret next married Sir William Paynell 1st Baron Paynel, son of William Paynell and Matilda Hussey, before Jul 1301.1 (Sir William Paynell 1st Baron Paynel was born about 1254 8 and died on 1 Apr 1317 8 9.)


Sources


1 John L. Kemmis, <i>The Family of Kemmis</i>(http://www.kemmisfamily.info/TheKemmisBook/kemmis00.html).

2 J E E S Sharp and A E Stamp, <i>Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem </i> (London: n.p., n.d.), 1 Henry III: 122-129.

3 <i>A History of the County of Sussex</i>, 8 (London: Victoria County History, 1953), 4: 8-10.

4 J E E S Sharp and A E Stamp, <i>Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem </i> (London: n.p., n.d.), 1 Henry III: 217-225.

5 <i>A History of the County of Sussex</i>, 8 (London: Victoria County History, 1953), 7: 223-227.

6 <i>A History of the County of Sussex</i>, 8 (London: Victoria County History, 1953), 7: 80-83.

7 J E E S Sharp and A E Stamp, <i>Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem </i> (London: n.p., n.d.).

8 George Edward Cokayne, "Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom" (Sutton Publishing Ltd., 2000), X:327-31.

9 J E E S Sharp and A E Stamp, <i>Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem </i> (London: n.p., n.d.), 6: 8-19.

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