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Guillaume [I] de Ponthieu Comte de Ponthieu
(-1171)
Hélie de Bourgogne
(Abt 1080-1141)
Guy [II] de Ponthieu Comte de Ponthieu
(-Abt 1147)
Ida
(-After 1177)
Jean [I] de Ponthieu Comte de Ponthieu
(-1191)

 

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Spouses/Children:
1. Mathilde
2. Laure de Saint-Valéry
3. Béatrice de Saint-Pol

Jean [I] de Ponthieu Comte de Ponthieu 5 6

  • Marriage (1): Mathilde after 1158 1 2
  • Marriage (2): Laure de Saint-Valéry after 1162 1 3 4
  • Marriage (3): Béatrice de Saint-Pol on 4 Dec 1170 1
  • Died: 30 Jun 1191, Acre, IL 1 5 6

  General Notes:

JEAN [I] de Ponthieu (-Acre 30 Jun 1191). "Wido comes Pontivii" confirmed freedoms over his lands, with the consent of "patris mei Willermi et domine Ele matris mee, fratris mei Johannis et uxoris mee Ide et filii mei Johannis" by undated charter. He succeeded his father as Comte de Ponthieu. "Jean comte de Ponthieu" founded l´Hôtel-Dieu d´Abbeville by charter dated 1158, witnessed by "Ide comtesse…". Robert of Torigny records that Henry II King of England granted "castrum Alenceium et Rocam Mabiriæ" to "Willermus Talavacius comes Sagiensis et filius eius Johannes et iterum Johannes nepos eius filius Guidonis primogeniti sui comitis Pontivi" in 1166. Robert of Torigny records the death in 1171 of "Guillermus Talavercius comes Pontivi" and the succession of "Johannes nepos suus…ex Guidone primogenitor suo". "Jean comte de Ponthieu, Guillaume son fils, et Beatrix son épouse" granted revenues to "Baudin et Simon son frère…" by charter dated 1186.

m firstly (after 1158) MATHILDE, daughter of ---. The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified. 1162.

m secondly (after 1162 [repudiated, before 1170]) [as her first husband,] LAURE de Saint-Valéry, daughter of RENAUD de Saint-Valéry & his [second] wife ---. The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified. Domesday Descendants records that Renaud de Saint-Valéry was the father of "Laura wife first of John count of Ponthieu, by whom she was repudiated, and secondly of Alleaume de Fontaines", but does not cite the corresponding primary sources. [She married secondly Alleaume de Fontaines.]

m thirdly (before 4 Dec 1170) BEATRIX de Saint-Pol, daughter of ANSELME "Candavène" Seigneur de Lucheux et de Tarentefirt [later Comte de Saint-Pol] & his first wife --- (-1202 or after). "Johannes comes Pontivi" confirmed rights of the monks of Val, with the consent of "Guidonis fratris mei et Beatricis comitisse uxoris mee", by charter dated 1177, which also names "mater mea Ida comitissa". The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified. "Jean comte de Ponthieu, Guillaume son fils, et Beatrix son épouse" granted revenues to "Baudin et Simon son frère…" by charter dated 1186.

Comte Jean [I] & his third wife had [four] children: Adele, Guillaume, Marguerite and Helene. 1


Jean married Mathilde after 1158.1 2 (Mathilde died before 1162 1.)


Jean next married Laure de Saint-Valéry, daughter of Renaud [I] de Saint-Valéry and Unknown, after 1162.1 3 4


Jean next married Béatrice de Saint-Pol, daughter of Anselme de Saint-Pol Seigneur de Lucheux et de Tarentefirt, Comte de Saint-Pol and Unknown, on 4 Dec 1170.1 (Béatrice de Saint-Pol died after 1192 7.)


Sources


1 Charles Cawley, <i>Medieval Lands</i>.

2 Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, Todd A. Farmerie, 9 Jun 2002.

3 Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, Douglas Richardson, 5 Feb 2003.

4 Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, Rosie Bevan, 1 Oct 2002.

5 Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, David Faris, <i>Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants</i> (Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1992), 109-27.

6 William Henry Turton, <i>The Plantagenet Ancestry</i> (1968), 13.

7 Leo's Genealogics Website (Leo van de Pas), www.genealogics.org, Beatrix de Saint Pol.

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