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Guy [II] de Ponthieu Comte de Ponthieu
(-Abt 1147)
Ida
(-After 1177)
Anselme de Saint-Pol Seigneur de Lucheux et de Tarentefirt, Comte de Saint-Pol
(-After 1174)
Jean [I] de Ponthieu Comte de Ponthieu
(-1191)
Béatrice de Saint-Pol
(-After 1192)
Guillaume [II] de Ponthieu Comte de Ponthieu
(After 1178-1221)

 

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Spouses/Children:
1. Alix de France Comtesse d'Eu, Dame d'Arques

Guillaume [II] de Ponthieu Comte de Ponthieu 2 3

  • Born: After 1178 1
  • Marriage (1): Alix de France Comtesse d'Eu, Dame d'Arques on 20 Aug 1195 in Meudon, Hauts-de-Seine, Île-de-France, 92190, FR 1
  • Died: 6 Oct 1221 1
  • BuriedMale: Abbaye de Valloires, Argoules, Somme, Picardie, 80120, FR 1

   Another name for Guillaume was Guillaume "Talvas" de Ponthieu.1

  General Notes:

GUILLAUME [II] "Talvas" de Ponthieu, son of JEAN [I] Comte de Ponthieu & his third wife (after 1178-6 Oct 1221, bur Abbaye de Valloires, Somme). "Jean comte de Ponthieu, Guillaume son fils, et Beatrix son épouse" granted revenues to "Baudin et Simon son frère…" by charter dated 1186. He succeeded his father in 1191 as Comte de Ponthieu. "Will Talevas cuens de Pontieu" granted rights to Crècy, with the consent of "Guyon mon oncle", by charter dated 1194. He played an important role in the war in Normandy, commanding troops at the battle of Bouvines 1204. "Willelmus comes Pontivi et Monstreoli" donated property to the church of Saint Giosse, with the consent of "Marie filie mee et Aelis uxoris mee", by charter dated 1205. "Guilelmus comes Pontivi et Monstrolii" donated property to Saint-Maurice d'Agaune, for the souls of "Alaidis uxoris meĉ et Mariĉ filiĉ meĉ", by charter dated Mar 1210. He was part of the army brought together at Lyon in Apr 1215 to march against the Albigeois. "Willelmus comes Pontivi et Monsteroli" confirmed rights granted to the abbey of Balances by "Johannes comes Pontivi pater meus" by charter dated 1214. "Willelmus comes Pontivi et Monstreoli" confirmed property rights of the church of Saint-Valéry granted by "Johannis comitis Pontivi patris mei et Beatricis matris mee et mea" by charter dated Mar 1215.

m (contract Mantes, Yvelines 20 Aug 1195) ALIX de France, daughter of LOUIS VII King of France & his [second wife Infanta doña Constanza de Castilla] ([4 Oct] 1160-after Jan 1213). Robert of Torigny records the death in 1160 of "Constantia regina Franciĉ" while giving birth to a daughter. She is named Adelaide by Kerrebrouck, but he cites no primary source on which this is based. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "reginam Margaretam Anglie et comitissam Aaliz" as children of King Louis VII & his second wife, specifying that Alix married "Guilelmus comes de Pontivo". The De Rebus Hispaniĉ of Rodericus Ximenes names "Adelodis" as the daughter of "Ludovico Regi Francorum" and his wife "Elisabeth" (error for Constantia), specifying that she married "Comitis de Pontivo". There is some confusion between this daughter and King Louis VII's supposed daughter Alix by his third wife. Roger of Hoveden records that the betrothal of King Louis's daughter to Richard of England was first proposed in 1161, when Richard's older brother Henry was betrothed to her sister Marguerite. Chronologically, this can only refer to the king's daughter by his second marriage. This appears to be confirmed by the Chronicle of Gervase which records the betrothal in 1169 of "Ricardus…filius regis Anglĉ" and "filiam regis Franciĉ quam habuit de filia regis Hispanorum". Ctss de Bourges 1174, as her dowry. Benedict of Peterborough records the betrothal "XI Kal Oct 1177" of "rex Anglie…Ricardus comes Pictaviĉ filius eius" and "regi Franciĉ…filiam" as part of the peace agreement between the two kings. It is assumed that this refers to the same daughter, although the primary source which confirms this beyond doubt has not been identified. If this is correct, she was presumably the same daughter who later married the Comte de Ponthieu. Until further information comes to light, it is assumed that Alix/Adelaide who was betrothed to Richard, and who later married the Comte de Ponthieu, was the daughter who was born in 1160, and that King Louis had no daughter of this name by his third marriage. Alix was brought up in England after her betrothal. Benedict of Peterborough records that the betrothal of "Alesia soror eius [Philippi regis Franciĉ]" and Richard was renewed in 1189, commenting that the king of England "in custodia habet". Richard refused the marriage after his accession to the throne. Kerrebrouck states that King Richard arranged her betrothal to his younger brother John in early 1193, but the primary source which confirms this has not been identified. She returned to France in Aug 1195. Ctss d'Eu, Dame d'Arques in 1195, as her dowry for her marriage. "Willelmus comes Pontivi" granted rights to the commune of Marquienneterre, with the consent of "uxoris mee Aalidis filie Ludovici regis Francie", by charter dated 1199. "Willelmus comes Pontivi et Monstreoli" donated property to the church of Saint Giosse, with the consent of "Marie filie mee et Aelis uxoris mee", by charter dated 1205. "Willelmus comes Pontivi et Monstreoli…et Aalais uxor mea comitissa Pontivi et Maria filia mea" granted concessions by charter dated 1207 . "Willelmus comes Pontivi et Monstreoli" granted rights to one of his vassals, with the consent of "Aalis, uxoris mee Ludovici regis filie et Marie filie mee", by charter dated Aug 1208. "Willelmus comes Pontivi et Monstreoli" granted rights to the commune of Maioc, with the consent of "Aalis, uxoris mee et Symonis de Bolonia, generis mei, et Marie filie mee, uxoris eius", by charter dated 1209. "Willelmus comes Pontivi et Monstreoli" granted rights to the nuns of Moreaucourt, for his soul and that of "Aelidis, uxoris mee, filie Ludovici regis Francie", by charter dated Dec 1209. "Guilelmus comes Pontivi et Monstrolii" donated property to Saint-Maurice d'Agaune, for the souls of "Alaidis uxoris meĉ et Mariĉ filiĉ meĉ", by charter dated Mar 1210. "Willaume comte de Pontieu et de Montreuil" agreed a concession made by one of his vassals, with the consent of "Aalis sa femme et de Marie leur fille" by charter dated Nov 1211. A charter dated Jan 1213 (New Style) confirms a grant of rights to the church of Sainte-Marie at Clairvaux by "Willelmus…Pontivi et Monstreoli comes et Aalis, uxor eius, filia pii regis Ludovici" agreed a concession made by one of his vassals, with the consent of "Aalis sa femme et de Marie leur fille". A charter dated Mar 1215 under which "Willelmus comes Pontivi et Monstreoli" confirmed property rights of the church of Saint-Valéry granted by "Johannis comitis Pontivi patris mei et Beatricis matris mee et mea".

Comte Guillaume [II] & his wife had one child: Marie. 1


Guillaume married Alix de France Comtesse d'Eu, Dame d'Arques, daughter of Louis VII de France Roi de France and Constanza de Castilla y León, on 20 Aug 1195 in Meudon, Hauts-de-Seine, Île-de-France, 92190, FR.1 (Alix de France Comtesse d'Eu, Dame d'Arques was born about 4 Oct 1160 1 and died after Jan 1213 1.)


Sources


1 Charles Cawley, <i>Medieval Lands</i>.

2 Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, David Faris, <i>Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants</i> (Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1992), 109-28.

3 William Henry Turton, <i>The Plantagenet Ancestry</i> (1968), 13.

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