Raoul de Warenne
(-After 1074)

 

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Spouses/Children:
1. Béatrice

2. Emma

Raoul de Warenne 2 3 4

  • Marriage (1): Béatrice about 1034 1
  • Marriage (2): Emma before 1059 1
  • Died: After 1074 1

   Another name for Raoul was Rodulf de Warenne.

  General Notes:

RAOUL de Warenne, son of --- (-1074 or after). An undated charter records an agreement between Sainte-Trinité de Rouen and "Rodulfo Warethnæ" to buy land "in Blovilla…apud villam…Merdeplud…et terram prati Sottevillæ", with the consent of "dominum nostrum Willelmum Normannorum ducem…et Rotomagensis archiepiscopi Malgerii", by undated charter (dated to [1037/55]), signed by "…ejusdem Rodulfi de Guarethna., Beatricis uxori eius, Rogerii filii episcopi, Huberti filii Turoldi…". "Rodulfus de Warenna" sold "totam portionem suam silvæ montium Blovillæ et Scurræ", with the consent of "uxoris suæ…Emmæ", by undated charter (dated to [1059]), signed by "Willelmi comitis, ipsius Rodulfi, Emmæ uxoris eius, Hugonis de Flamenvilla, Leudonis…". "Rodulfus de Warenna cum conjuge sua…Emma" sold "Amundi Villæ, Anglicevillæ, Flamenvillæ, Maltevillæ", with the consent of "Willelmi consulis Normanniæ", by undated charter. "Hugo de Flamenvilla" sold property "quam tenebat de domino suo Rodulfo de Warethana in Amundi Villæ…et in Maltevilla…[et] in Flamenvilla" by undated charter which also records that later "supra memoratus Rodulfus et uxor eius…Emma ac filii eorum Rodulfus et Willelmus" confirmed the agreement, signed by "…ipsius Hugonis de Flamenvilla, Rotberti filii eius, Gisleberti filii eiusdem…". "Quidam miles de la Bruere…Alveredus, annuente Adheliza uxore sua" sold "decimas…in Maltevilla et Amunde Villa" to Sainte-Trinité de Rouen, with the consent of "Wido comes et Rodulfus de Warethna cum uxore sua…Emma", by undated charter, signed by "…Goiffredi fratris Alveredi, Hugonis de Flamenvilla, Roberti filii eius…". "Quidam miles…Willelmus filius Ansgeri de Salceid" sold land "in Amundi Villa" to Sainte-Trinité de Rouen, with the consent of "domino eius Rodulfo…de Warenna…et uxor eius…Emma", by undated charter. "Rodulfus de Warenna eiusque conjux…Emma cum filiis suis Rodulfo…atque Willelmo" sold land in "quattuor villarum Caletensis pagi, Maltevillæ…Flamenvillæ, Amundi Villæ et Anglicevillæ" to Sainte-Trinité de Rouen, as well as "totius Osulfi Villæ eiusdem Caletensis pagi" sold by "Guillelmo filio Rogerii filii Hugonis episcopi", by charter dated 1074. He sold land at Matevilla, Flamenvilla, Amundi Villa and Anglicevilla, all in pagi Calentensis, to Sainte-Trinité jointly with his wife and two sons, dated 1074.

m firstly BEATRICE, [niece of GUNNORA, mistress of Richard I Duke of Normandy,] daughter of --- (-after 1053). Guillaume of Jumièges records that "nepotes...plures...Gunnor...una earum" married "patri primi Willelmi de Warenna" by whom she had "idem Willelmus postea comes Surreiæ et Rogerus de Mortuo-mari frater ipsius"[although the undated charter quoted below which records a sale of property by"Hugo de Flamenvilla" indicates that Raoul´s second wife was the mother of his son Guillaume]. An undated charter records an agreement between Sainte-Trinité de Rouen and "Rodulfo Warethnæ" to buy land "in Blovilla…apud villam…Merdeplud…et terram prati Sottevillæ", with the consent of "dominum nostrum Willelmum Normannorum ducem…et Rotomagensis archiepiscopi Malgerii", by undated charter (dated to [1037/55]), signed by "…ejusdem Rodulfi de Guarethna., Beatricis uxori eius, Rogerii filii episcopi, Huberti filii Turoldi…".

m secondly (1059 or before) EMMA, daughter of --- (-after 1074). "Rodulfus de Warenna" sold "totam portionem suam silvæ montium Blovillæ et Scurræ", with the consent of "uxoris suæ…Emmæ", by undated charter (dated to [1059]), signed by "Willelmi comitis, ipsius Rodulfi, Emmæ uxoris eius, Hugonis de Flamenvilla, Leudonis…". "Rodulfus de Warenna cum conjuge sua…Emma" sold "Amundi Villæ, Anglicevillæ, Flamenvillæ, Maltevillæ", with the consent of "Willelmi consulis Normanniæ", by undated charter. "Hugo de Flamenvilla" sold property "quam tenebat de domino suo Rodulfo de Warethana in Amundi Villæ…et in Maltevilla…[et] in Flamenvilla" by undated charter which also records that later "supra memoratus Rodulfus et uxor eius…Emma ac filii eorum Rodulfus et Willelmus" confirmed the agreement, signed by "…ipsius Hugonis de Flamenvilla, Rotberti filii eius, Gisleberti filii eiusdem…". "Quidam miles de la Bruere…Alveredus, annuente Adheliza uxore sua" sold "decimas…in Maltevilla et Amunde Villa" to Sainte-Trinité de Rouen, with the consent of "Wido comes et Rodulfus de Warethna cum uxore sua…Emma", by undated charter, signed by "…Goiffredi fratris Alveredi, Hugonis de Flamenvilla, Roberti filii eius…". "Quidam miles…Willelmus filius Ansgeri de Salceid" sold land "in Amundi Villa" to Sainte-Trinité de Rouen, with the consent of "domino eius Rodulfo…de Warenna…et uxor eius…Emma", by undated charter. "Rodulfus de Warenna eiusque conjux…Emma cum filiis suis Rodulfo…atque Willelmo" sold land in "quattuor villarum Caletensis pagi, Maltevillæ…Flamenvillæ, Amundi Villæ et Anglicevillæ" to Sainte-Trinité de Rouen, as well as "totius Osulfi Villæ eiusdem Caletensis pagi" sold by "Guillelmo filio Rogerii filii Hugonis episcopi", by charter dated 1074.

Raoul & his [first] wife had [four] children. There is some doubt about the identity of the mother of these children. Guillaume of Jumièges names "Willelmus postea comes Surreiæ..." as Raoul´s son by his wife Beatrice. However, an undated charter names them "Rodulfus et uxor eius…Emma ac filii eorum Rodulfus et Willelmus". As the documents quoted above date Raoul´s marriage to Emma in [1053/59], the birth of the children of Raoul´s second marriage would be dated to [1055/65]. However, reports indicate that Guillaume de Warenne was active as an adult in Normandy before the English invasion in 1066, which would place his birth to [1035/40]. This all suggests that Guillaume of Jumièges is correct and that the children were born from their father´s first marriage.

Children: Rodulf, Guillaume, [Erneis and Gauthier].

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RODULF DE WARENNE, 1st son and heir, is known only from his subscriptions to two charters of his father for the Holy Trinity of Rouen. As his father's lands near Rouen and in the pays de Caux did not pass to his son William or William's descendants, it is likely that Rodulf succeeded to them on his father's death; he married Emma, whose parentage is unknown.

[Complete Peerage XII/1:493, XIV:603, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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[From "The Origins of Some Anglo-Norman Families"]

For this identification see Mr. Loyd's paper 'The Origin of the Family of Warenne' in Yorkshire Arch. Journal, vol. xxxi, pp. 97-113. The hamlet of Varenne lies on the river Varenne c. 2 miles S of Arques and c. 13 miles N of Bellencombre. The latter place, arr. Dieppe, cant. Bellencombre, where there was a castle, became the caput of the Warenne honour in Normandy.

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Curt Hofemann, curt_hofemann AT yahoo.com, provided the
following additional information on Rodulf, in a post-em:
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Rodulf (Ralph) I de Warenne

K.S.B. Keats-Rohan "Poppa of Bayeux and her Family":

1027-35: first occurrence of Ralph de Warenne in a charter for Saint-Amand [p22]

c1050: grant of land in Vascoeuil by Ralph de Warenne and wife Beatrice; charter mentions Ralph's brother Godfrey and was attested by Gotmund miles abbatis. Dateable to c1050 by a reference to Roger de Beaumont as Vicomte of Rouen [p22]

1050's: well known charters of early 1050s by which Ralph de Warenne and his wife Beatrice were associated with the lands of Roger fitz Bishop Hugh of Coutances and his sons. [p23]

Research note: K-R p22 contradicts CP (& Holloway & Wagner) by stating Rodulph/Ralph died before Beatrice. Beatrice is listed as living 1053 (CP XII/1:492 & ES III:698) & dead before 1059 (CP XII/1:492, K-R p22, Moriarty p184, Wagner p46]. K-R states a grant "made by widow Beatrice" to Preaux of land near Dozule, Eure was "dated during the time of William son of Count Robert, suggesting that William had not yet begun the series of military achievements that enabled him to be detached from his father in such references, i.e. before c1054-60". To do: check CP's source of the 1074 grant. Also is the term "widow" K-R's or stated in the grant of the land near Dozule?... Curt

Regards,
Curt 1


Raoul married Béatrice about 1034.1


Raoul next married Emma before 1059.1 (Emma died after 1074 1 5.)


Sources


1 Charles Cawley, <i>Medieval Lands</i>.

2 William Henry Turton, <i>The Plantagenet Ancestry</i> (1968), 112.

3 George Edward Cokayne, "Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom" (Sutton Publishing Ltd., 2000), XII/1:493.

4 Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, Todd A. Farmerie, 3 Dec 1996.

5 George Edward Cokayne, "Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom" (Sutton Publishing Ltd., 2000), XII/1:492.

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